# What I know so far about the 26.4 panorama seed > Everything I ruled out for the ice cave panorama seed from snapshot 7. I think its a 64 bit seed. - Author: Pablo Casado Rodríguez (Pavloh), https://www.pavloh.com/ - Published: 8 November 2026 - URL: https://www.pavloh.com/en/blog/panorama-26-4-s7/ _This isnt the final version. Ill keep updating it as I find more._ For the last few weeks I was cracking the seeds from the [ElRichMC](https://x.com/ElRichMC/status/2117696767877656587) snapshot videos for 26.4, so I already had filters and searchers ready for this version. On Tuesday [26.4-snapshot-7](https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-26-4-snapshot-7) came out with a new panorama, an [ice cave](https://minecraft.wiki/w/Ice_Caves) next to a frozen ocean. I [got the ElRich one](https://x.com/ImPavloh/status/2117708464495730895) ([video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msB7CRSvzaY)) in under a minute, but thats for another post. Then I went for the panorama. I really wanted it. Ive been on its seed for a few days and still dont have it. Here is everything I tried so nobody has to do it again.
The thumbnails I made for the ElRich one ![Thumbnail with the seed of the ElRichMC world in 26.4 snapshot 7, the ancient city and the disc](https://www.pavloh.com/blog/panorama-26-4-s7/elrich_seed.webp) *The seed of the ElRich world* ![The best of the ElRichMC world, a village on top of an ancient city, two villages by spawn and an igloo with the flurry disc](https://www.pavloh.com/blog/panorama-26-4-s7/elrich_mundo.webp) *The best of his world*
The panorama came out on Tuesday November 3rd. I finished the ## Older panoramas A few [panoramas](https://minecraft.wiki/w/Historical_panoramas) got cracked before. The original one was cracked by [Minecraft@Home](https://minecraftathome.com) with distributed computing. Pale Garden too ([code](https://github.com/MinecraftAtHome/Panorama-Pale-Garden)). Wilderness Bound was cracked by Bachale (coords from grass rotations) and Fragrant_Result_186 (seed from the poplars). It was the text "NewPanoramaUpdatedFeatures" ([video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGmtrbOwosg)). A seed from "Create New World" with the seed box empty comes from a [48 bit generator](https://minecraft.wiki/w/Seed_(level_generation)). You can check that from the seed itself. The last ones dont come from there (newest first): ## What I think Its not 48 bit in s3 to s7. The only thing I cant rule out is the screenshot being from an internal build between two snapshots, with another decoration order. Checking all 2^64 seeds is 65536 times the 48 bit search, like 7 years on the same 4 GPUs, so no brute force. Since 1.18.30 Bedrock accepts [64 bit seeds](https://minecraft.wiki/w/World_seed#History). I also created new Bedrock worlds without typing anything and none of the seeds came from nextLong. That would fit with the last panoramas that dont come from nextLong. I think the seed is 64 bit (maybe taken from Bedrock, but thats a guess) and that the world was generated with it in Java. Now its just waiting for the Bedrock panorama, should be out soon. ## Update No seed yet, but the Minecraft@Home people are rebuilding the cave by hand on a server. When the Bedrock one comes out Ill add it. If the seed shows up Ill celebrate it here with alot of emojis. If you have any lead, come share it on the [Minecraft@Home Discord](https://discord.gg/k5JmhCjb7X). ## Tools and sources The tools in this post (reading the images, simulating the crystals and andesite, the GPU searches, checking with real worlds) are from my own project, which Ive been working on since 2020. I also leaned on these community tools and sources to double check results and get ideas: - [cubiomes](https://github.com/Cubitect/cubiomes), which I use for biomes. - The jars of each snapshot, which now come [unobfuscated](https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/removing-obfuscation-in-java-edition). That way you can see directly how the game generates things. I also used them to make test worlds. - [WebCoordsFinder](https://github.com/ALaggyDev/WebCoordsFinder) and [CoordsFinder](https://github.com/ALaggyDev/CoordsFinder) by Laggy, which they used to get the camera (I compared it with the one I got). - The [cloudfinder](https://github.com/humhue/cloudfinder) by humhue, which fanda857 used for the clouds. - The Minecraft wiki ([Panorama](https://minecraft.wiki/w/Panorama) and [Historical panoramas](https://minecraft.wiki/w/Historical_panoramas)), for the seeds and positions of older panoramas. - [Minecraft@Home](https://minecraftathome.com) ([GitHub](https://github.com/MinecraftAtHome)), for how they cracked other panoramas, like [Pale Garden](https://github.com/MinecraftAtHome/Panorama-Pale-Garden). - [Chunker](https://github.com/HiveGamesOSS/Chunker), the world converter between Java and Bedrock by Hive, to test the converted world idea. - [bedrock-samples](https://github.com/Mojang/bedrock-samples), the Mojang repo where Bedrock panoramas show up. - [vast.ai](https://vast.ai) to rent the GPUs. - The [Minecraft@Home Discord](https://discord.gg/k5JmhCjb7X), where a lot of the clues came from. Thanks to the Minecraft@Home people, Laggy (i_am_sheep), Bachale, fanda857, M33_Galaxy, HARYA, ui (xnuuizh), xpple, sage (.sage007), elenaran, Tom (tomlacko), Cactooz and Philipp_DE for the server where they are rebuilding the cave by hand. Thanks for reading :D